‘Identity Politics’ is what Divides US: America is not Red or Blue, but Purple

If you won’t listen to me, Listen to Hillary

“Our campaign was never about one person, or even one election. It was about the country we love and building an America that is hopeful, inclusive, and big-hearted. We have seen that our nation is more deeply divided than we thought. But I still believe in America, and I always will. 

And if you do, then we must accept this result and then look to the future. Donald Trump is going to be our president. We owe him an open mind and the chance to lead. Our constitutional democracy enshrines the peaceful transfer of power.” 

-Hillary Clinton

From my comments section this morning 

  • Too many people trying to make excuses and shift blame on their ‘enemies’ for their tantrums and why they refuse to accept the results results of the election. I didn’t like or vote for Trump either, but the election is over. We need to accept the results and move forward. To do otherwise is ‘horrific’ and ‘irresponsible’ not to mention damaging to the integrity of our system of government, as I quoted both Hillary and Robert Reich as saying.
    Anger, rage, hostility, violence and punishing those why you disagree with as if they are your enemies does nothing to put the country back together again, and it betrays the message and encouragement of Hillary Clinton in her concession speech. It’s just plain childish and wrong. 

  • This is OUR America. ALL of ours

  • “The pundits, the pundits like to slice and dice our country into red states and blue States: red states for Republicans, blue States for Democrats. But I’ve got news for them, too. We worship an awesome God in the blue states, and we don’t like federal agents poking around our libraries in the red states.


  • We coach little league in the blue states and, yes, we’ve got some gay friends in the red states.

    There are patriots who opposed the war in Iraq, and there are patriots who supported the war in Iraq.

    We are one people, all of us pledging allegiance to the stars and stripes, all of us defending the United States of America.” 

     

    – President Barack Obama, at the 2004 Democratic Convention

  • -kia

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26 thoughts on “‘Identity Politics’ is what Divides US: America is not Red or Blue, but Purple

  1. Oh, how very patriotic of you. But what does the quote have top do with your claim that ‘identity politics’ – rather partisan brinkmanship perfected by Republican party policy to ensure a long-term dysfunctional government and Congress to thwart and vilify any and all Presidential initiatives – divides the US?

    I find it astoundingly, astonishingly, hypocritical that those who have helped bring about through their Republican support – verbalized or by voting for or failing to vote against – what amounts to broken government incapable of addressing real needs of real people in real life in the name of political partisanship to now do a 180 and pretend their concern really, really, really is for those same people (for whom government services will now be reduced if not eliminated) and so we must all pull together and support – by this really strange coincidence, I suppose – the very Party that ensured a broken government to begin with.

    The nerve. The Naivety. The unmitigated bullshit stance offered with a straight face to set up in order to then blame those who really do want government to serve the people rather than the special interests of the uber rich for the despotic reign of the Ignorant and Stupid who toil in their service, who will continue to damage in partisan interests the very institutions that represent the government’s ability to serve the people.

    One has to be delusional to think it is patriotic to support those who would , will, and have helped tear down the very foundations upon which the country has been built.

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    • Sorry, I respect your opinion but don’t share it. I certainly wouldn’t curse you with profanity or attack you as an enemy for holding it or disagreeing with me. I wouldn’t shoot, throw rocks or concrete or punch you in the face for not agreeing with my opinion either.
      What divides us is the binary system we have been sold. Red/blue, republican/Democrat, friend who agrees with us/enemy who deserves only our contempt and punishment for having the temerity to not agree with us.
      Identity politics is used to divide us from each other and make us enemies and weapons against each other… mostly to keep the real power brokers in positions of power over us.
      Identity politics and the binary system is encouraging and enabling us to make enemies and demons out of everyone who doesn’t agree with our point of view. It breeds the type of violence we are seeing on the streets as a result of Progressive Democrats losing an election that they thought, and even I believed, was in the bag… in the fix.
      Now rather than doing what they encouraged trump followers to be prepared to do… accept defeat in a Constitutionally mandated Peaceful Transfer of power… the shit storm has been loosed, against Hillary’s own encouragement otherwise mind you.
      We disagree. I get that. I’m even ok with that, are you? We need to find a way forward, rather than tear the whole damned system down. How can we do that without calling out those who want to rain destruction on all their enemies?

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      • Ah. Here’s the problem with your claim:

        “Identity politics and the binary system is encouraging and enabling us to make enemies and demons out of everyone who doesn’t agree with our point of view.”

        What does identity politics really mean?

        Identity Politics (OED):

        A tendency for people of a particular religion, race, social background, etc., to form exclusive political alliances, moving away from traditional broad-based party politics.

        Doesn’t that moving away part actually describe you, KIA? So, if you formed political alliances with others who have moved away from traditional broad-based party politics, then does it make sense for someone like me to then claim that you are in fact responsible because “(i)t breeds the type of violence we are seeing on the streets…?”

        See, I’m not the one hurling individual accusations here, KIA. I am hurling factual criticisms. The problem is you don’t even know you’re doing it.

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      • Are you sure the system we’ve been sold is red and/or blue? Who does pollution benefit? You? Me? If women can’t get an abortion, are they in a great position? If blacks are stopped, searched and then shot, are they winning? Are measures that foster those things designed for the betterment of society?

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    • Clinton encouraged us to accept the results and give trump a chance to lead. That isn’t happening when people are rioting in the streets and attacking others with rock and chunks of concrete, shooting people like at the University of Washington or punching them in the face

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      • It’s not rage. It’s anger. It’s anger at the betrayal of western liberal democratic values by voters who don’t care. Trump has no business being a President of the US. He’s so ignorant about the business itself he doesn’t even understand why he has no business being a President. Look at what he says and then look at what he does. (the speech to the Intelligence community is a prime example of the disconnect between words and deeds.) There’s a huge disconnect here. Yet a near majority of voting Americans don’t care enough about their country welfare to elect someone who has no clue how to be President, how to organize a cabinet, how to surround one’s self with expertise and capability, with leadership experience and demonstrated ability to delegate effectively, how to create policy and gain the political support and voter support for it. Trump’s ignorance is not hidden. His actions reveal his inability to lead and his words are sold to people without their understanding that the two – his words and his deeds – are almost always in direct conflict.

        This lack of understanding is fuel for anger.

        This amounts to a very great danger not just for the US but to the stability and prosperity throughout the world. It’s so dangerous that people get very angry that few people seem overly concerned that all this smoke is good evidence that there’s a fire about to erupt, afire threatening all of us that will interrupt the Trumputin from assuring everyone that the air is clean, that it is very, very clean, so clean in fact that people will grow tired of breathing it and start to ask for more dirty air because no one does dirty air or clean air better than Trump. Yada yada yada.

        Paying attention to the words as if they describe reality rather than looking at the utter gong show that is the cabinet and see political ignorance in action by this president is text book delusional thinking. Going along with it is hardly patriotic when the real danger is going on in front of us. This is the dismantling of the country’s foundations. And it is underway while so many people ignore reality and try to get others to go along with their delusional thinking in the name of ________ (insert some liberal virtue here).

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  2. Hey, Kia, thanks for this, and being willing to open yourself up to criticism in the hope of a little bridge building. I’m thinking even further back than “red and blue” to “blue and gray”, and by the grace of God we weathered that storm also. So in the words of Chuck Swindoll, hand me another brick…

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  3. It’s worth noting that the majority of angry rioters are under thirty. I think we’re witnessing the disillusionment of a generation dealing with the sudden realization that they’re not the entitled special snowflakes they view themselves to be.

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  4. So. On January 24th the Trump administration without any public consultation 1) pulls all funding on any and all NGO (non governmental organizations) that provides abortion services… an essential component of women’s health care, 2) gags the EPA (Envrinmental Protection Agency) from publishing any press releases, including use of social media or websites and freezes all funding, 3) orders the ARS (Agricultural Research Service) of the Department of Agriculture to immediately stop communicating with the public about taxpayer-funded work silencing over 2,000 in-house scientists to give their finding to the Trump appointed Overseer first who will then decide what and how to present any findings, and 4) approved Keytstone and XL pipeline construction.

    How very patriotic. How very respectful of the liberal democratic society Trump champions. How respectful of the public – you know, the ones who supposedly gained power on inauguration day. How respectful of honoring the pursuit of improved health care and knowledge gained by scientists.

    What a joke. We’re supposed to put aside… what exactly? Our concern for others? Our care for the environment? Our principle of acting reasonably on best evidence and rely, instead, on ‘alternate’ facts? Our respect for and access to public accountability of public institutions? You actually think this is patriotic? It’s not. It’s idiotic.

    Look, KIA, at what point and in what ways are to put aside our differences when its those differences that delineate responsible citizenship – the patriotic kind where love of country actually exceeds asinine self-interest and nepotism – from despotic irresponsibility? You tell me when the time comes, won’t you? I’m sure you know where the real line must be if crossing it already with this gong show of a quatrain doesn’t mean anything to you so far.

    Good grief.

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