(((Reposted 2/23/17 as “You don’t really Know, but do you even want to?)))
From a post on THIS blog… (a response (?) to my post, now ‘Purged’ in the Monthly Reset)
Any scientist who holds confidence in some faith-based belief does so only by segregating this belief from the rigorous method of science, and so their scientific credentials do not play any part in supporting their religious beliefs.
What was said most likely in irony is probably the most accurate and salient point of the post. Now THAT is irony in action. Freudian Slip? -kia
John’s post was seeming to say the scientists MUST have as much or possibly more faith than Christians for what they believe because, wait for it, wait for it …
Or at least that’s how I understood his transparent and somewhat less than clever attempt at silencing those who criticize modern Christian Apologetics tactics, especially on the Internet.
My original post, now Purged in the Monthly Reset, was to pass on the quote above that drew the difference in comparison with Questions that cannot be answered, and yet many people engage in the inquiry called scientific discovery in the attempt, and those Answers which cannot allow or stand questioning, criticism or evaluation, mostly religious or Faith Based answers.
John’s post seems to be creating a “Strawman of Ignorance”, as one commenter stated…
Feynman’s quote: “…answers that can’t be questioned.”
JB’s comprehension of the quote: “… answers that don’t need questioning.”
‘Can’t’ is not synonymous with ‘don’t need’. Honest.
So the rest of the post is based – as it very often is – on JB’s problematic reading comprehension, one that regularly and reliably produces straw men points, one that substitutes what he believes is the case but doesn;t bother to check is the case. His belief is good enough for him…
I believe there might have been an additional point in there about using such tactics to ‘shame people into silence’… but either it’s been removed or I may just be mistaken. Either way, that would also be an equally salient point demonstrating the current tactics or many Amateur Internet Apologists today. It’s as if they are saying to those who would dare Question or Challenge what they just “Know by Faith” is True ™…
“Strawman them, twist their words, mock them until they just go away and bless us with their absence and silence.”
Well, you don’t get to use the Argument from Ignorance to support what you don’t know for fact, but only by Faith. Yes, there are a lot of things that science and scientific inquiry hasn’t yet figured out or discovered, that’s why people like Nobel Prize Winner in Physics Richard Feynman still Ask Questions.
But just because they don’t have the Answers yet, doesn’t give the weight of evidence or validity to your positions that you only “Know” by Faith Alone. You don’t get to claim yours is True just because the other guy is either wrong or doesn’t yet have the Answers he’s looking for. That’s the point that JB needs to understand.
(((Updated for a response to a response post to mine and my comment back to her)))
Thx for the link. I appreciate the delicacy of the situation of asking questions who’s ‘answers’ must not be questioned for fear of the possibility that they are wrong and I’ll founded in reality.
I guess it comes down to the question of whether you would really want to know if what you believe about God and reality is true or not. I believe it’s important to know, or at least want to know.
For you, and many like I was once as well, it seems to be out of bounds to even want to know what you say can only be known by Faith. Thus, I conclude… you don’t want to know and don’t care about what is true or not in reality.
I am sad for you, but hopeful. At least you know what is at stake. -kia
The problem is that you don’t really know what you think you ‘know by faith’. The other problem you seem to have is even though you know that you don’t, you don’t seem to care that you don’t.
What do you think? What not tell me in the comments below. And thx for reading, Liking, and Following the Recovering Know It All.