Can’t you feel the Love of Jesus

W
March 6, 2017 at 11:29
Look Mike
Every comment you make here is no more than an insult
I am here doing my Father’s work
You come here doing your father’s work as well
Dont like your reception here? Then dont come here
KIA
March 6, 2017 at 12:30
My father has been gone 6yrs now

W
March 6, 2017 at 12:42
Mike
In all honesty i an sorry you lost your father
I have lost one so i understand
But before you go running off telling the blog world i called your father the devil like your atheist mentor Ark does understand i was not referring to you passed father
You are here doing the work of your spiritual father Satan.
That is what rabid atheists evangelists do

KIA
March 6, 2017 at 13:57
Interesting. My ‘spiritual’ fathers include quite a few men over the decades, mentors who have helped shape who I am as a person and who I was as a Christian. None of them had the name of Satan or mephistopheles or Lucifer.
Many you might recognize, and many more you would not, given your education and experience levels in the Christian faith.
But overall, if Satan were a spiritual father of mine, and he is not by virtue of non existence, would you say that Satan does the bidding of God for the testing of mankind? That is the role he plays in the ot. Gods servant, sent in service of gods aims, to test and oppose mankind. Satan is not, in the ot anyway, the Adversary of God but the servant of God. It’s not until you get to the nt times and after that you start seeing the character as kind of a dualistic demiurge with godlike powers and presence.
But alas, he too is a fiction… Not a real personage. Certainly not one to be afraid of or counting as anyone’s father, spiritual or otherwise.
Really wally, do a better job of trying to insult me personally. Or better yet, just stop where your intelligence bars you from further invasion

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28 thoughts on “Can’t you feel the Love of Jesus

  1. Mike, can you explain the rationality behind you leaving Christianity (because in your opinion Christ doesn’t exist) and then going on to constantly criticize Christians for being unlike Christ?

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    • The point is… and it should be fairly obvious… that even though I don’t follow or seek to live like Jesus out in the world as a witness to Him, these Christians do, and they fail horribly. Which might be, to some discerning souls, good evidence that such an Indwelling Christ and life changing and moderating Holy Spirit doesn’t actually exist outside of the context of the Bible and church doctrine.
      Suffice it to say, I find their lack of Christ like behavior and temperament both illustrative and instructive.

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      • You sound more & more like poor Peter – the aussie.

        So, you believe there is some value in living up to Christ Jesus’ ideal. Yet, you choose to ignore it. How wise is that?
        Then to go on to criticize others who choose to make Christ Jesus central to their lives but intermittently fail, is just odd. A righteous man falls seven times, and rises again, But the wicked stumble in time of calamity.

        In case you didn’t learn this over your 35yrs – there’s only one whose obedience is perfect, and that is Christ Jesus; and that is why we choose to make Him Lord and Savior of our lives… God sees Jesus’ obedience when we place our faith and trust in Him.

        Jesus has never had anyone qualified representing Him yet. He’s not taken by surprise when we fail.

        I find your knowledge of the Gospel (the entire Scripture really)illustrative and instructive as well.

        Explain what happens when a person becomes saved. Is their physical being changed… how about their mind.
        Why does it say – be not conformed but be renewed… who does the renewing and who does the letting.

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  2. ‘You sound more & more like poor Peter – the aussie.’

    Ah the voice of reason joins the discussion.

    Perhaps I should be honoured that I am accorded such special treatment.

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    • And I will accept the honor of the appelation as well. Although doubting Thomas might be more appropriate. “Show me the money”… or the nail scars in this case

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  3. KIA, I’ve noticed the way you have been frequenting Wally’s blog and making him the focus of quite a lot of your blog posts. Whether to push your point about him or Christians in general or Christianity, it is PURE wrong! What you’ve been doing is tantamount to Cyber bullying, and you really should be brought to account on it. There’s no need to mock anyone based on their religious beliefs or sex, age, sexual orientation etc. You know this, so why do you keep scapegoating Wally??? Talk all you like about ‘Christians’, but when you have a particular character you are publicly mocking consistently, you are WRONG! No matter what Wally said or did, you have certainly provoked his reactions, and like theancients said, Wally isn’t Jesus! And even if it was Jesus you were speaking to, you would be sure that Jesus wouldn’t hold back any bars, just like He didn’t with the Pharisees, and He was righteous, as He is in all His judgements.

    You need to check yourself on this!

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    • “There’s no need to mock anyone based on their religious beliefs or sex, age, sexual orientation etc.”
      Yes there is. There is plenty of need. Just put aside the fact that the beliefs themselves are irrational and beyond ridiculous (which is a sufficient enough reason), but couple that with the fact that people use these beliefs to justify:
      Intolerance of Homosexuals
      Denying women’s rights (the “pro-life” movement)
      Teaching pseudo scientific garbage to children in state run schools (creationism)
      and innumerous other crimes and stupidities

      Wally’s beliefs are so strong that he gets more upset and irate when they are ridiculed than he does when Mike points out that these beliefs were the single most contributing factor to a child being murdered by his own parents.
      This is someone who has some terribly arranged priorities and is delusional.

      Mike, you do not need to check yourself on anything. There is nothing to apologize for.

      Wally and his ilk need to be exposed and ridiculed for the immoral, hateful, brainwashed, delusional ignoramuses that they are. This idiotic nonsense (religion) has caused immeasurable pain and suffering the world over for centuries. Their commitment to spreading it needs to be countered at every opportunity.

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      • Hi ashley. Thx for the support. In ways, both you and ufomee are correct. Balance in all things. I try to focus more on the beliefs and ridiculous characteristics of the faith than attacking persons. The problem I see most with wally is not that I mercilessly attack him personally, but his offence at his beliefs being challenged.
        It’s easy as a Christian with a strong personal identification with ones faith and beliefs to take very personally what is not criticized or attacked personally. Wally doesn’t separate the two easily. Neither did I at one time.
        To ridicule the ridiculous beliefs and practices is one thing, but even if you aren’t attacking the person, people like wally and like I was will sometimes believe that you have anyway.
        No. I don’t think I will let Wally’s or anyone elses thin skin detract or deter my posts, but i do recognize when offence has been taken and need to be sensitive enough to ask myself if I havent stepped over the line to personal attack inadvertantly.
        Wally and crew often and repeatedly cross that line with great pleasure and glee. Doesn’t mean I have to. We can be better than that, yeah?

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        • I agree with that sentiment Mike but I don’t recall you ever having crossed a line to ridicule Wally and his ilk in a personal manner that wasn’t directly attached to his beliefs.
          I’m sorry but Ufuomaee’s post is nothing more than a whining plea to stop persecuting and being so mean to poor Wally because it’s just so “wrong”. I don’t see anything you’ve done wrong other than expose an delusional, brainwashed, unthinking idiot for what he is.

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          • Do your comments make sense even to yourself.

            Ufuomaee says: “There’s no need to mock anyone based on their religious beliefs or sex, age, sexual orientation etc.”

            You [Ashley]: Yes there is. There is plenty of need….
            REALLY???

            Then you go on to say: ….couple that with the fact that people use these beliefs to justify:
            Intolerance of Homosexuals

            So, seriously, what exactly are you complaining about? Didn’t you just say There is plenty of need to mock (someone) based on their sexual orientation, age, belief, etc.

            Kia’s comment section says: “comment responsibly and respectfully”…
            hmmm, let’s see:
            Ashely Wally and his ilk need to be exposed and ridiculed for the immoral, hateful, brainwashed, delusional ignoramuses that they are. This idiotic nonsense (religion) has caused immeasurable pain and suffering the world over for centuries. Their commitment to spreading it needs to be countered at every opportunity.

            immoral, hateful, – how would you know? You have no clue what morality is or where it comes from. So what exactly are you talking about.

            Personally, I think Mike loves Wally. He just has a strange way of showing it. Why else would Wally always be in Mike’s thoughts :)… right KIA.

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            • Morality comes from us… society… and our need to get along and interact with respect. It doesn’t come from the god of the Bible. He would kill a newborn before punishing a rapist/adulterer/murderer (david) not moral at all.
              And no. I wouldn’t say that I love wally. I don’t hate him either. He’s in my thoughts because I want him and all like I was to be free of the false faith of christianity

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              • If morality comes from society then society is your god.
                How does one know which society is right and which is wrong?

                Currently, in some societies slavery is still acceptable; a person can be jailed or killed for various unsubstantiated accusations; children are killed for being born an albino etc.

                Who knows what can happen in the future, especially to Christians.

                So explain how obtaining your morals from society is the way to go when it’s clear societies have been wrong on moral issues in the past, currently, and most likely in the future?

                I think it’s good to want others to be free from religion (dead religion, fundamentalism of all stripes – atheism/materialism included).

                I’ve told you before, it’s a good thing for you to be out of your dead religion. Now you are free to be all who Christ Jesus gave Himself for you to be.

                The problem is – you think all Christians are like you were. You couldn’t be more wrong!
                I know for a fact, I do not know where you get most of the stuff you write about Christianity. They’re completely unbiblical.
                You’ve reduced God to this ‘small being’ you think you can handle. The only person this affects is you and those around you.

                I know for a fact in 35 years you’ve never experienced intimacy with Jesus; and this is why you can deny Him with not one memory to hold on to – that this was indeed something real.

                I wish you the best.

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              • No Society is not anyone’s “god”. What an incredibly stupid thing to say.
                Currently in some societies slavery is acceptable. Most civilized people today consider that immoral. Slavery is not only condoned but commanded by god himself throughout the bible. The best that Jesus could do on the subject was say “don’t beat them so bad that they die after a couple of days”. If this is where you get your moral guidance on the topic of slavery, I would have to say that your priorities are completely out of whack.
                “So explain how obtaining your morals from society is the way to go when it’s clear societies have been wrong on moral issues in the past, currently, and most likely in the future?”
                It’s a long so trial and error process that is constantly evolving. Someday, we’ll look back in disgust at the intolerance we displayed towards homosexuals in the same manner that most of now view the intolerance we displayed towards back people a mere 100-150 years ago. No doubt, people like you will be right there, railing about how none of that was “true” Christian behaviour. It’s the same old tired, broken record you’ve been playing for forever.

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              • I don’t know much anymore, but I’m starting to think talk of morality only makes sense in context of interaction with other people. If you were on a desert island by yourself, what need would you have for pleas to ‘morality’? I’d say none

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            • I have no clue where morality comes from? You’ve phrased that wrong theancients. Let me help you with that. “You don’t believe that my god gives you morality like I do so you don’t know where it comes from.”
              Morality comes from several things including but not limited to, biology (innate concepts) and human experience. It is forever evolving. Where it was once considered perfectly normal and moral to own slaves (and referenced numerous times in the bible for example), it is no longer. It’s considered morally reprehensible in fact. Parents don’t need to be taught by any one or anything to look after their children, they have an innate sense of responsibility and deep affection for their offspring. Claiming this comes from your imaginary sky daddy, does not make it the case and never will. It is nothing more than an unsubstantiated delusion on your part.
              I did not say that that there is plenty of need to mock someone based on their sexual orientation and their age. I said there is plenty of need to mock someone on their beliefs.
              “Just put aside the fact that the BELIEFS Themselves are irrational and beyond ridiculous (which is a sufficient enough reason), but couple that with the fact that people use these BELIEFS to justify:…”
              Gender (sex) is not a belief
              Age is not a belief
              Sexual orientation is not a belief
              You have some very severe reading comprehension deficits. I suspect this is due to the Christian induced brainwashing and subsequent atrophying of your brain as a result.

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