((Reposting for cs this morning, the evangelical ecumenical wanna be. Enjoy. -Kia))
“And they’ll know we are Christians by our love, by our love…”
While one amateur Internet Apologist Extraordinaire recently blogged that Jesus Prayed like Someone was Listening, and I did a repost post to it…
… another Christian blogger CS suggested recently that Unity could only be found among Christians by ignoring their differences and treating them, at least in conversations on the Net within earshot of non believers, as if they were too small to matter.
Recently THIS not so funny guy is saying that God Hates Denominations. I think he’s not completely being honest about the full implications of his ironic post. The issue isn’t as much that Christians can’t get their S#!T together… it’s that Jesus’ Prayer for Christian Unity in John 17 is…
“The Most Unanswered Prayer that no one Admits to”.
I do think CS has got one thing right though. That the only way to have Christian Unity would be by completely ignoring the glaring and sometimes Huge differences in how they view (ie. their church doctrines) God, Jesus, Scripture and Salvation itself. Do pay a visit to CS’s and JB’s posts though. And say Hi for the KIA while you’re at it.
Now back to your regularly scheduled programme. -kia
When God can’t even get His Prayer answered…
“I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.” -Jesus, Son of God, God in Flesh, recorded in John 17:23 KJV
The trouble with saying that God illumines scripture for believers to “rightly divide”, is that there are so many different believers “rightly dividing” with different opinions on what God has illumined them to understand.
The first indication that most Christians get that there is more to the story is when they start encountering and mixing with other Christians of different stripes and denominations.
The obvious answer is that the Biblical God is not able to illumine anything to anyone because He simply isn’t there to consult.
And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked.” -Prophet Elijah, 1 Kings 18:27 KJV
A different pseudo-apologist stated once that only believers can rightly interpret and understand scripture because God gives them insight. If that were true, One God… One interpretation and insight.. One understanding and doctrinal stance. Right? Apparantly not.
A test for readers here:
1. Oneness pentecostal or trinitarian?
2. Gifts of the Spirit operating today or ceassationism?
3. The Catholic Mass a continuation of Christ’s sacrifice or only a symbolic remembrance and Tradition?
4. Pre trib, post ,mid-,no trib, pre wrath, partial rapture, amill, post mill, no mill, ?
5. Hell, no hell, annihilation, purgatory, conditional eternal life, eternal security, OSAS, apostasy possible, ?
6. Five points, no points, 4 points, 3 points, Arminian, Amyraldism,
7. The list goes on and on and on….
“Honesty, is such a simple word” -Billy Joel
What will it take before some Christians realize that MOST of us who don’t believe in their christianity or their Bible USED TO BE JUST LIKE THEM? Yeah, it’s true. Most of us who challenge them and refute them and give them the biggest headaches trying to come up with excuses why we should just “shut up and believe them…” we’re once active and very involved believers in Jesus just like them. Some of us even in ministry roles for decades.
You can’t explain away the glaring inconsistencies or paper over the chasmous holes in the “Greatest Story Every Told”. It matters little how many people believe it and for how many centuries it has survived or the good impact believing it has on those who do. It just
“isn’t True, it isn’t History, it’s just more Astounding Rubbish from the NewTestament”- Ken Humphreys, Jesusneverexisted.com (and Old Testament too, I might add -kia)
Enjoy a bit of Cab Calloway this morning with your humble pie.