((July 2017, Brother Mel asked if I could Disprove the existence of the God of the Bible, as if not being able to disprove a claim was Evidence for or lends support to its Proof. Can you Prove the non existence of Magic Dust throwing Pixies somewhere in the vastness of the Universe, Brother Mel?))
Even if Evolution were proven False…
… That would not serve as Evidence FOR Creationism or ID.
But thankfully, the evidence for “Evolution by Natural Selection” has not been and probably will never be proven false. In fact, it’s one of the most well established and evidenced theories of understanding Reality that we have ever have.
If Darwin lived today, he would have been given the Nobel Prize. Sadly it didn’t exist yet in his time.
Bereishith- “In the beginning…”
I didn’t always know or even want to know these things. I was, until very recently, a Christian, and an ardent and active one at that, who had as the very center of my Identity, The Person and Character of Jesus. I was a Jesus Following Disciple of Christ.
- “I am crucified with Christ, therefore I no longer live. Jesus Christ now lives in me”
- “For me to live is Christ, to die is great gain”
- “Christ in You, the hope of Glory”
-Paul the Apostle
“Go back and tell others…” -Jesus to the Man of the Tombs
“When I was a Youth Minister and Inner City Missionary to Youth Gangs, I found out and taught others the fact that greater than 85% of Adult Life-long Christians accepted Christ as Saviour before the age of 15. “
“My Mission was to get them at that age and I focused on Junior High and early High School aged kids for this reason. ALONE“
My Journey into Christianity began as I suppose a lot of people’s does. I was 15 years old on my paper route in a small town in rural Kansas. But before I begin, a bit of backstory is necessary.
Good News about Bad Consequences
The week before my conversion to Christ, my sister, who had recently taken the nickname ‘Sunshine’ instead of her given name, had invited me to a Bible Study in the next town over where the leader of the group, a small gathering of young college age people at the very end, I mean the WAY very end of the Jesus Movement, had been meeting to read the Gospel of John (Good News for Modern Man version) together and sing simple songs of worship.
At the end of that night, the leader, who I believed at the time was a student at some bible college or other, gave me a copy of the Good News NT and asked me to read John’s Gospel when I got home. Which I did. I stayed up and read the whole of the Gospel of John in one sitting till late in the night.
My 15yr old First Impression of Jesus
It spoke of a Jesus guy who told stories and made people upset with what he said, then got himself killed. The last part of the story told of his coming back to life and lifting off to heaven in a cloud of dust. I thought it was a good story and identified the Jesus as the same one who hung from a cross supported by chains from the ceiling of our Catholic Church. I remember thinking he was still there, but not alive. As a kid, Good Friday was always a mystery to me. Looking up at Him hanging from chains, I always thought to myself “Wasn’t so good for HIM”.
But back to the Story above: The very start of My Journey.
The next week, as I was saying, I was on my paper route after school when one of the Grandmotherly type ladies I threw to asked me how I was doing, what was new with me. I told her about the Bible Study and about my reading the Gospel of John but not really understanding it all. Of course, being a Christian and wanting to help me out a bit, she invited me back around for cocoa and cookies after my route was done.
Cookies and Jesus. Hold the Hell please, I’m on a diet
Came to find out that she was the wife of the recently retired minister at the local Bible Church, Fundamentalist/Independent Baptist in flavor, just up the street from where I lived. She read me the gospel of John chapter 3 about what Jesus had done and the consequences of refusing his “Kind Offer” of Salvation, then chapter 1 about who Jesus was, God in Human form who couldn’t be refused without dire Eternal Consequences. Then, like all good Christians of this ilk do almost on sheer reflex alone, she pressed me for a decision for Christ.
- With NO Evidence to support her claims
- With NO other bits from Science or History
- With NO ‘other side of the question’ to raise questions
… With “Appeals to Authority”, not just Jesus’ implied and assumed authority as God in Flesh with whom I would have Hell to pay for refusing, but also HER authority as an Elder woman of society which in MY town just wasn’t to be questioned by mere 15 year old kids…
- … I accepted the message,
- prayed the prayer of Faith
- and became a Christian.
It really didn’t matter at that time what I knew to be true or false or that I had no opportunity to check the story against reality, science, history or archaeology… I had not even heard of Pascal’s stupid Wager yet (till I started using it myself in Street Evangelism and Apologetics), I was a Christian because I freely accepted the message of the Gospel and trusted Christ alone for my Salvation from Hell.
A Hell God Himself created for those who refuse Him
I didn’t even know enough then to think that it was God’s own Wrath that Jesus was saving me from or that He supposedly Created the place called HELL that He is threatening people who don’t submit with.
“I didn’t think to ask then that if God want’s to Forgive mankind, and He doesn’t want people going to Hell…
- Why not just Forgive those who believe without the manipulative threat of Hell being an option?
- Why not just Forgive without Jesus having to Die and shed blood in a Human Sacrifice?
- Why Create Hell in the first place if you don’t want people to go there?.”
“I was a Kid… I didn’t have the ability to think of these things for myself. I just “Trusted” that she was telling me the Truth ™, and that the Truth ™ actually WAS True.”
Hell was something God didn’t want, but was there anyway because of US.
- Yup, God Created it, but it was OUR fault.
- He didn’t want people to go but “We send ourselves there” by refusing His Gracious Love.
- Jesus was willing to lower himself to become ‘like’ us to save us from Hell, IF we believe in Him and do as He says from now on…
Repentance and Submission. Better illustrated in the verse I always used to describe True Christianity ™ “Repentance toward God, Faith towards Jesus Christ”.
I knew nothing, literally nothing of what I was getting into or the Truth of the claims made by either the Bible Study Leader or the Grandmother on my paper route. The rest of my Christian life was spent shoring up defenses and finding Apologetic ‘Reasons to Believe’ that The Story was in fact True, Historical, Archeologically demonstrable and really Reality based, and ONLY reading and considering authorized and acceptable sources for information.
“There and Back again… a Young Man’s Journey”
I was a Young Earth Creationist, Avid and Rabid Anti-evolutionist and TR/KJV Christian for 34 years, 25 of which as a Minister and Missionary in various roles in the Church and serving short term missions in two different countries outside the US as well as having been an Inner City Missionary here in the Phoenix area for 5yrs before that.
I was Plain Wrong about the ‘Plain Truth’ of Scripture
I didn’t know all knowledge about what I was saying or supporting. I trusted others who had these things ‘sorted’ for me. Now I know that THEY were wrong too, most of the time knowingly wrong, in what they ‘knew’ and supported about Reality.
“Christian Apologetics is NOT about “giving answers to those who ask for the reason for the hope within you”, it’s about giving “Answers” to Believers sufficient enough to STOP them from asking further questions… whether those answers are True, Accurate, and in accordance with Reality, History, Science or even Honest.”
From Bereshith to Bull$#!t
At the end of my 34 yearJourney as a Christian, I simply had to, with the help of new information from new ‘Unofficial’ sources apparently kept from us by the Official Sources (I guess I can say, Thank God for the Internet!!), realize that I had been lied to and kept in this Fantasy Land of Unreality called Christianity. I had no other option than to admit that I was no longer “The Know It All” I once thought I was. I went into Permanent Recovery where I am now. Because of learning these things about the Fantasy I gave my life and Identity to for the last 34yrs and continuing to learn newer and more mind blowing things about the Reality I once before denied and was denied, I will forever be…
The Recovering Know It All, at your service of course.