How to Practice Faith & Spirituality – Rob Bell

From Pariah to Prophet

From a man and a minister that when I was a Christian I was told to brand a heretic and an apostate. I love this man now. Such wisdom and grace. 

Now, as a deconverted and former christian, I think… Great podcast interview on Faith and Spirituality without the imposition of Man-made ‘religion’. What wisdom, grace compassion, empathy and intelligence this man displays

Some favorite quotes from the interview:

” your life is a gift and you intuitively know how you respond matters”

“Humans tend to create institutions that get in the way of being human”

“What does it mean to make a difference in the world, what does it mean step outside your comfort zone”

Interviewer: “So what is it that you believe in? The whole big picture, what is the Faith then?”

Rob: “Overall? The big picture? I believe there is Something at work in the Universe, moving us Forward”

“Solidarity is Divine”

When asked about the Bible: 

“I read it Literate-ly. I read it as the literature that it is… I always begin that it’s real people in real places at real times… ‘whatever we know about the Divine begins with the Human'”

“The truth is some ideas about God have to die, they can’t keep up. You have to let go of that conception. If your God isn’t as big as your science, you’re in trouble… ‘we’ve learned some things about biology and cosmology and if your God can’t speak to this, it’s not going to work. “

Interviewer: “What is your Mission now?

Rob: “I want to wake people up to the miracle that is your Life”

Three truths he would leave behind:

“Love wins, everything is Spiritual. There’s Depth to everything… and there way more going on here”

What did you think of Rob Bell when you first heard of him and his book Love Wins? 

  • Have you read the book? 
  • We’re you a Christian? 
  • Have you also entered Recovery? 
  • What do you think of him now? 

What were your impressions of this interview and his positions now on Faith and Spirituality, God, the Universe and Wonder? Why not start a conversation in the comments below. Let’s talk.


Xtian Poetry: Thoughts on “How long?”

Thoughts on the Journey

How long should it take 

How long should I hesitate

How long must the future wait

How long till I finally make

The full Journey from and to myself?

“dude, just move on”

“Why mourn relationships gone?”

“Go forward, look beyond”

“You can’t let go and still hold on”

But ‘Eyes have not seen nor ears heard’… a more silly way to comfort a wounded soul.

It takes as long as it takes. It hurts as much as it hurts. It feels as deep as it has to feel. It bleeds as long as the wound is fresh. Till the oozing stops and time crowns my wound with a scar called… Survival

Until then… I’m in Recovery. Deal with it!


Friday Morning Grace: Embrace True Forgiveness

My question for today is “Cannot the One who made up the rules and is Only offended by their abrogation just simply… Forgive?” My answer is… Yes. Yes he can. But why doesn’t He? -kia

“True Forgiveness is me giving up my right to any Recompense for the wrong you have done to me. It means neither you or anyone else has to pay the Penalty or the Price. Otherwise it’s not Forgiveness, but just Punishment or Scapegoating someone else to keep you from needing Give what only you can give… True Forgiveness… Forgives.” -kia

In Christianity and according to the Bible, both Old and New Testaments, 

  • God creates the World, Us and All there is
  • He makes the rules
  • Only He is ‘ultimately’ offended
  • Ultimately, He is the Creditor
  • Only He is Unchanging and Unchangeable
  • Nothing we do or say can ever minimize or diminish What and Who He is

He could just Forgive, 

  • but He chooses to Recompense Eternal Punishment and Torture for Finite offenses to His supposedly  Unchangeable and Unaffected Glory committed by Limited creatures such as we during our Finite lifetimes. 

He could just Forgive, 

  • but His Glory ‘demands’ Payment and Retribution, whether by or on You and I in a place of Everlasting Fire or His Own Son on an equally Finite and Limited torture and death on a cross. (A three day ‘take back’)

He Himself says Only He is ultimately offended. 

  • Only He is able to Forgive and Release the Sinner from the Price and Penalty by True Forgiveness… Relinquishing His Rights to Recompense… on You or anyone else FOR you.

He could just Forgive… He did David after the Rape of Bathsheba, and the Murder of he husband Uriah… wouldn’t You? 

  • Have you asked yourself, christian… If He can and He could… Why won’t He and Why doesn’t He?

Embrace True Forgiveness Today. 

My Hope for you who are still as I once was, a Christian Slave to a False System of Divine Human Sacrifice and Eternal bondage or Eternal punishment… is that you would simply walk away from the False Forgiveness and system of Penalty, Price, Punishment and Pain. That you would learn that There is no Scapegoat. There is only True Forgiveness… or Recompense. We forgive each other (or not) for offenses done to us… no God of the Bible involved at all.

“I set before you Life… therefore, Choose Life”-kia paraphrase

Choose True Forgiveness Today and Give it to others Freely. Leave the False Forgiveness of Torture, Punishment and Death for the True Forgiveness of Life and Peace. Recovery Awaits. 


Reposted for Stephanie and Co.: Do you believe Irrational Things?

He who always was, Spoke it All into existence.

So… Tell me again. Where did the biblical God come from? And how exactly was He supposed to have Created Everything from… Nothing?

And you say you Know this to be True
How exactly do you Know this to be True? Or do you just Believe that…

A God came from nowhere to create Everything that exists out of Nothing?

Even RC says it’s Irrational

It’s a nice Belief, I guess. But do you Know this to be True and how would you actually Demonstrate or Show this to be True in any real and verifiable sense of the word… True?

The world of unbelievers are waiting for something called… Evidence

  • Not BS, 
  • not arguments, 
  • not stron arm bully tactics, 
  • not shifting burdens to those who don’t believe, 
  • not character assasinations for not believing, 
  • not Irrational Circular arguments from Ignorance or Incredulity…

Evidence would do the trick. We are waiting. You’d better get to it. Chop, chop.


Do you believe the Unbelievable? Why and why not?

Christians, do you believe that Muhammed flew on a winged horse? Why not?

I give you… The Muslim ColorStorm:

I believe much stranger facts said by science which if you tell anybody 200 years ago would not believe and would call you crazy:

During your lifetime, you will produce enough saliva to fill two swimming pools.

The acid in your stomach is strong enough to dissolve razorblades. The reason it doesn’t eat away at your stomach is that the cells of your stomach wall renew themselves so frequently that you get a new stomach lining every three to four days.

The human lungs contain approximately 2,400 kilometres (1,500 mi) of airways and 300 to 500 million hollow cavities, having a total surface area of about 70 square metres, roughly the same area as one side of a tennis court. Furthermore, if all of the capillaries that surround the lung cavities were unwound and laid end to end, they would extend for about 992 kilometres.

Sneezes regularly exceed 100 mph, while coughs clock in at about 60 mph.

The human body is estimated to have 60,000 miles of blood vessels.

Nerve impulses to and from the brain travel as fast as 170 miles per hour. Neurons continue to grow throughout human life. Information travels at different speeds within different types of neurons.

Now i believe all these facts eventough i never did the discovery or the calculation by myself. I simply believe the scientist who did the discoveries.

Now you tell me why I should not believe my Prophet Muhammad when he said he travel from Makkah to Jerusalem with Buraq ( allegedly winged horse) .

Muslims, do you believe Jesus walked on water, raised the dead and was the Son of God? Why not?

I give you, the Christian Imam:

Yes. Consider Ephesians 3:9:

And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid inGod, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

Once you believe that Jesus was empowered by the Father in the beginning to create this physical existence we know, it is pretty easy to believe He could turn water into wine and walk on water. The great claim that people often think is unbelievable is the claim regarding who He was. As for what He did during His ministry, those things are all minor points. If you can create a universe, you can walk on water, most definitely.

Christians… Do YOU believe what could only be Unbelievable to others while disbelieving what THEY believe on Faith, the same way you do your beliefs? Why

Do you measure and critically examine your own beliefs with the same intelligent scrutiny that you dismiss the Unbelievable beliefs of other Faiths? 

Would you accept on Faith those Unbelievable beliefs the same way you do your own? Why or why not?


My comment to Peter should give us all pause…

Literally, Peter, what could NOT be ‘true’ once a person has made such a decision to accept whatever a particular Faith or Holy Book says is true?
What could they NOT totally dismiss, from reality and science and evidence, that disagrees?
Faith in the Unbelievable, as ufuomaee states in her post that prompted mine, is truly a mind-numbing and dangerous thing.
What action, reaction, terrorism, crime or bigotry against mankind or individuals could NOT be justified in light of “thus saith the Lord God” or “Allah commands it”?


Monday Re-post: My entry for Daily Post Prompt ‘Test’

Work Ethics and Job Pride

This is my Entry for the Daily Post Writing Prompt “Test”

“Every day is a Job Interview” -kia

I grew up in central Kansas during the 60s thru the mid 80s. Small town, farm community, hard work, honest labor. Lots have changed in 30 years since, but one thing that hasn’t is my strong Work Ethic given to me by my parents and germinated in the ‘good soil’ of of the American Heartland.

It has stood the Test of Time.

How about you? Where were you raised? Did you get the same Training and encouragement growing up to work hard and succeed? How do you feel about the differences today?

Tell me in the comments below.


The Bible is a Novelization of Ancient Mythologies

Just one of many such videos, some better, some worse. 

The Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses… Jesus and His Disciples depicted in the Bible never really existed. They were literally ‘written into history’ by people who wanted to make others believe that the Mythology of Ancients was actually History.

The Internet: Where Religions come to Die

Watch the video, think it thru, do your own research and Wake up. Christianity is built on “cuningly devised fables” meant to bring Mythology into Reality. But it’s no more True ™ than Mythraism, Hinduism, Zoroastrianism or the Worship of Baal. It’s just another Mythology born from the stars and seasons.

We were Afraid, so we made up stories to comfort us

In the days when Ignorance and Fear of the unknown ruled, we might have had an excuse, but in today’s modern light of science, technology and discovery, we no longer have such luxury or right to keep ourselves, our children, and others in the Dark Ages.  It’s time we embraced real Reality. 

We are still afraid, but now… we have better options than Ignorance

I don’t know if there is a God or gods out there. I doubt we would even know if there were since they seem to do a good job of keeping hidden or staying beyond our ability to detect their presence or trace their effects directly back to them beyond our Natural World. At which point, for me anyways, the question itself now becomes meaningless, pointless and utterly irrelevant.

Abraham is an Absentee Father…

I do know that the depiction of the God of the Bible and his Only Begotten Son Jesus is pure fiction and “fairy tales for grownups”. None of the Abrahamic Faiths and their multitudinous extrapolations, permutations and splintered off sects and denominations hold any Historical or Reality based foundations. 

“Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin”. 

They have been measured and found to be lacking. 

… and Yahweh is a Deadbeat Dad.

The stories and tales in the Bible are efforts of the ancients to bring Mythologies, astrological and otherwise, into Reality ™ to make them more believable to the masses so they could be brought together and controlled for sociopolitical and religious reasons and for purposes of cohesion of identity as a people group. 

It’s the World that has been pulled over your eyes…

Please wake up from the Dream. Reality is out there. The Recovery Awaits.


Happy Birthday, Emily

I much agree with her this morning. We woke too early after going to bed too late, having watched Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone last night. Actually, my wife would identify with her words better as she is the one most heavily attracted to blissful sleep. 

For Emily Bronte ( July 30, 1818 to December 19, 1848) this morning in honor or her birthday, enjoy.  -kia

Ah! Why, Because the Dazzling Sun


Ah! why, because the dazzling sun 

Restored my earth to joy 

Have you departed, every one, 

And left a desert sky? 

All through the night, your glorious eyes 

Were gazing down in mine, 

And with a full heart’s thankful sighs 

I blessed that watch divine! 

I was at peace, and drank your beams 

As they were life to me 

And revelled in my changeful dreams 

Like petrel on the sea. 

Thought followed thought—star followed star 

Through boundless regions on, 

While one sweet influence, near and far, 

Thrilled through and proved us one. 

Why did the morning rise to break 

So great, so pure a spell, 

And scorch with fire the tranquil cheek 

Where your cool radiance fell? 

Blood-red he rose, and arrow-straight, 

His fierce beams struck my brow; 

The soul of Nature sprang elate, 

But mine sank sad and low! 

My lids closed down—yet through their veil 

I saw him blazing still; 

And bathe in gold the misty dale, 

And flash upon the hill. 

I turned me to the pillow then 

To call back Night, and see 

Your worlds of solemn light, again 

Throb with my heart and me! 

It would not do—the pillow glowed 

And glowed both roof and floor, 

And birds sang loudly in the wood, 

And fresh winds shook the door. 

The curtains waved, the wakened flies 

Were murmuring round my room, 

Imprisoned there, till I should rise 

And give them leave to roam. 

O Stars and Dreams and Gentle Night; 

O Night and Stars return! 

And hide me from the hostile light 

That does not warm, but burn— 

That drains the blood of suffering men; 

Drinks tears, instead of dew: 

Let me sleep through his blinding reign, 

And only wake with you! 

True Independance and Coffee

Freedom to Be

Coffee in mom’s mug

Pictures of family pets.

Peace makes Holidays


True Independance awaits for all who would refuse to be Slaves. When the life you lead is not truly your own, but given over completely and without reservation to another to do with as He wills, regardless of His intentions or desires… simply because He is more Powerful that you, threatening you with torture and eternal burning for not submitting to His demands, this is not ‘Freedom in Christ’, my brothers and sisters… it is willing Slavery to a Soul Rapist and an Eternal Marquis de Sade. 

Isn’t it a very good thing that there is no Evidence that such a Monster as the God of the Bible actually exists?

Come good Christians… Recovery Awaits.